Great. Yeah. I like to call to order the June eighth, 2020 special meeting of the faculty senate to order to start the meeting. In the past few online meetings, we took time to recognize the efforts of all those on the frontlines who got pushed back. And again, still want to recognize those FR, recognized the efforts of the person on the UT campus working to get the university up and running for the summer and then also for the fall. But maybe for yourself, take a moment of reflection and end up perhaps think of someone you would like to thank and something that you're grateful for difficult times in many different ways. But if you take a minute, those things maybe you're grateful for and think of who it is or what it is that's provided that for you. >> Okay. >> Second item I'd like to do is, as we did before, let's begin with introducing Jamie summer field from faculty count Kamen's, who's going to do a refresher over the techno, technological aspects of how we will be proceeding with today's meeting. I'd like to think that people's level of familiarity with zoom is at a point that Jamie is, is an uneducated, under-educated in that doing this lecture for us today. But that, but Jane will still give you shot here. >> Okay, I think the President Robinson, I appreciate it. >> So first and foremost, welcome everybody to today's Faculty Senate meeting. Again, my name is Jamie summer field and I work with Academic Technology Services. Part of my team tonight working behind the scenes is Paul hide him and I will be working to chat, which I won't get into in one moment. So if you've joined us, like Matt said for previous meetings, this should be just a quick refresher. If you're new to us tonight and joining us, we're gonna go over a couple of housekeeping items and how the meeting will be conducted tonight. So first and foremost, we will be using the chat tonight to recognize people who have questions. And as you may know and see that you are currently muted, Paul and I will be working the chat. So we asked these patients, will get you as soon as we can. And once you put your comment in there, Matt will ask at the appropriate times, Mississippi recognized, we will let him know. We will then anew and you can have the floor going forward. If you are not familiar with the tool bar down the bottom, right-click here. If you hover over the bottom, you can see the little chat symbol. >> We ask that you keep that up, enriching cities. >> There were comments next, I just want to talk about we have several resolutions that we will be voting on tonight. We will be using the polling feature in x2. One of the first things that I like to do is to do a test or just to make sure that everybody and see the pulling when it comes up on your screen and make sure they have it's not hiding behind something else as well. So if you look on your screen now, we are going to do our first test all to as anyone yellow card voting senator to answer this also, I am going to launch it right now. And on your screen you should see >> Oh, yes. All right. This is good. >> We already have rodents coming in, so that's always a good sign. >> Again, at any time, if you are having any issues, Nepalese put it in the chat window and all and I will try to. So let's see. >> Here we are up to 50 that are yes participants in this meeting as well. >> If you maybe 15 more seconds. So again, if you are a yellow car during senator, we need you to vote now. Yes. >> And we will use that number going forward when we vote on resolutions for tonight. I really think Karen, if it's longer than 5151, going once, going twice, Great. >> And I'm going to coin and Brian Hansen, you can see the bowl? >> Yes, I can. >> I've got the numbers now but still Logan people in, but it looks pretty close. If by some chance you cannot see the poll, make sure that there is not another window up and that you are using a, I believe a non Chromebook that sometimes will not allow you to participate in the poll. >> Okay, thank you, Jamie. And once again, I want to recognize the incredible job that staff and professionals, faculty comments the icky Academic Technology Services for what they did and mobilized and faculty to be prepared for the spring. Getting people like further acclimated for the summer and working through the summer to make sure faculty are up and running and offering up, you know, the full extent of the technology that scale for instruction. So Jamie and Paul, once again, thank you. Thank you for everything. I'll behalf while faculty, our first item ON businesses, the adoption of the agenda. The agenda has been amended to add below Provost Robin Morgan, that executive vice president John Wong will be will be speaking. So can I have a motion to adopt the amended agenda? And I will show of hand gerund or the hand. You'll see that I got I got a second on the ensemble seconds. >> Okay. >> Is there any discussion? Hearing? None. All in favor. And we'll we'll go with poll graduating yet on the agenda, so please both. Okay. Great idea. Agenda has been accepted. Brian, at looks like we have 57. >> Okay. >> Alright. >> And secondly is that we need to approve the minutes from the May 2020. >> Media can have a motion to accept the minutes as presented by two or three hands raised? Yes. I have a second. >> There is there any discussion, hearing? >> None. All in favor of accepting the minutes. Approval of the minutes. Okay. Thank a couple more seconds to think. >> We have a and Brian. >> Great. >> Okay. >> Now let's turn of remarks. I do want to say in advance the remarks by both vice president or provost Morgan. Advice for executive vice president John Morgan, that due to time and trained as far as meeting Italian manner, I think both have comments. It'll be sharing. If you have questions, we ask that you put them into the chat room. If if time permits we may address of dA will be happy to forward those onto both the pros Morgan and executive vice president Morgan to get back to you with response. So at this time, I'd like to turn the meeting over to Provost Robin Morgan. >> Okay. >> I think that's it. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> So I want to start by first thanking every penny again for really a spring semester with a twist. We're still in the very final stages. As you know, students have until tomorrow night to change their grades to from letter grade to pass on their credit. And we also are still looking at surveys, some coming in from student life. We know Caucus evaluations were done. Those will be optional for faculty to use that. We didn't want to solicit them so that we can get a very good idea, a better idea of how things went overall. Are students seem very grateful to the faculty for the effort they put in. We had some rough spots and some, and some real successes. I want to thank everybody. We are on track now to look at fall. And as you know, we're looking at the scenario of delivering a breeding the students back with social distancing and trying to deliver the academic program such that every student who wants it could have some face to face instruction. We're in the process of figuring out what that will look like. We should have some idea by June 17th, perhaps in the next couple of days of how this puzzle might fit together. If things go according to plan, the schedules will be finalized throughout to y. This will be back and forth in an iterative process with department chairs and faculty to see how we can figure this out, who's gonna teach and where. With the idea being that on July 27th, registration will reopen so that our students know when they're taken. Because when they signed up on May fourth, many of them signed up for a regular semester I want and then classes would begin right now on September first, which is not a change from the current calendar. I do want to reiterate that this This has not been accepted yet. We are still working on it, on many, many representatives from good faculty and from the Faculty Senate. But you will be hearing more about this as we see how the puzzle fits together and make a decision about whether we could do it. That's plan a. I think it's everyone knows Plan B is things don't go so well out there in the world where we have really very serious outbreaks that occurred with 19 on campus and we end up being fully online. Now when I talk about figuring out who's going to teach what and where. As you know, the dean, the chairs are working with faculty nail, faculty will not be forced to teach face to face. So faculty can, it is, it is an option. We want faculty to teach face to face if we can. But we understand that because of age or because of health conditions, many people may have some reluctance to do that in order to go through this. There has been confusion about the filling out of the ADA form and submitting it to disability support services. We're going to try to clarify that as best I can. The form is not necessary when a faculty member and a chair can work out the teaching assignment eat that faculty members needs. This is what we do year after year, semester after semester conversation between to chair the faculty. Remember the form? It is necessary if there's a disagreement about they had a or B, if a faculty member elects to use the form at the outset. And there are many reasons someone might want to do that, particularly for privacy. I can imagine many, many instances where someone really doesn't want to discuss with the department chair exactly what their medical accommodation might be. You should also know that we will honor caregiver, serious caregiver accommodations to so you should be having faculty should be having conversations with their chairs. And we, we will, we will see what works and how the puzzle fits together. The next thing I want to talk about is the budget. Very briefly, the President addressed the faculty in a general faculty meeting that was a few weeks ago. And at that time, dentist told to that for spring 2020, the revenue losses were $61 million. This should be in the faculty senate nodes. And then the width, cost savings and cares act funding our total liability for this spring. I think he used the number forty million, forty three million when you added the numbers, the picture has improved a bit. And what we now know is that the cost, the revenue losses remain at 61 million. But there have been some, some developments that have Let us find cost savings of 43 million. So We're now thinking this could change, but we're now opening the cost or I'm going to change, but that we will be 25 million and the hole for the spring 2020 semester. So that's a nice difference. I wanted to share with you some of what happened because the cost did not go down. One of the things was that executive vice president John Long, who will speak right after me was able has been negotiating the contract with arrow mark. And the arrow mark contract was to be for the next ten years. And arrow mark agreed to offset some of the losses that we had in spring 2020. You will recall that from the something like the 17th of March to the end of the semester when we sent students whom we prorated their room and board, and that was a big loss. Which arrow mark was under no obligation to help us with, but they did as about $7.5 million. So that was a very big, big help. We also have on changed much of our capital, more deferred maintenance, and really pulled money from every sofa cushions at the university. I want to say that because when we when we look at FY 21, it looks it's very scary. It's multi, multi-millions of dollars. And the point I wanna make is that every bit helps. So every 5 million, every 6 million, every wine million adds helps us to mitigate these losses that could be coming. So I swung keyboard to make sure that I'm very grateful to John for the work he did, but also just helping you see how serious these problems or for, for FY 21, you've heard some of the numbers, but we really aren't aren't sure we're making decisions. Nail knowing that will be about 13 million down for falling short of the freshman class target. We don't know how many returning students won't come using a figure of another ten, we had increased financial aid. We've lost operating gift revenue, many things. And of course, one of the great unknowns is, will we be on campus in the fall? We are planning for an on-campus experience for students, but it won't be a different line. It will not be like it was in fall 2019. We're in this together. It's really certainly the toughest time that I've ever known at the university. Probably any of us probably ranks as maybe the, but one of the top two or three challenges to the University of Delaware. And it's long history and the decisions we make and what we do will set the stage for the future of our university. There's going to be conflict as we try to figure out how to navigate these waters. And as we make decisions without knowing what this virus is going to do, when a vaccine will be available, and what will happen throughout the world. >> I'm asking everyone. >> Pull on yours as best they can and to try to work together to do what is best for the university, its faculty and students. Because it's really the end staff. It's really the people that make us what we or you look back over the last few months, we started sort of, you can call it phase one, but that was started in March and it was really a series of pretty serious fires. Hour to hour. New things developed, new people were infected. We had to figure out how to send people home, how to get him out of the residence halls, and how to convert many, many student credit hours online delivery. It was an emergency every moment. And I know you all felt that too. We've now eased out of that a bit. And I'm not saying there aren't emergencies, there are, but we've been able to spend time thoughtfully trying to plan for the fall. There's been a lot of effort in that and we need to continue to involve faculty and to try to do the best we can. For for fall, it will be different. There will be social distancing, there will be issues that we're going to give it a shot. Forgetting the students back here in the fall as we move forward, not knowing what will happen, we do need to start thinking about a third phase. And that's what's the future of higher education here at the University of Delaware? So everybody, as you plan a course, as you think about how to convert, as you think about how to assess the students in these new, new formats. As you think about where you work and how you work well and what's efficient. Please be engaged in how this changes what we do with the university forever. Because we, we, some of the changes that will happen or overdue, others are not what we would've wanted. Really having to stand in front of a class two by two or three by three square and not walk all over the classroom is going to be very, very challenging for many of our faculty, but we'll get there. But let's splits also think and spends time thinking about what we become and what all of higher ed becomes. And as we get a little more breathing room, we're going to start having many more of those conversations and I invite you to participate in that. With that, I think I'll stop here, Matt. I appreciate the time. And I went to in the way I started. Never been proud or the faculty and being when a view. I really am grateful for what everyone's time. >> Thank you. >> Great. Thank you, rob. Now I'd like to turn over to executive vice president John Morton. John, thanks for taking the time and come in to meet with faculty today. >> Thank Hello. Can you carry your good thanks, Matt, for having me on today. >> I'll keep this brief just a couple of minutes, but I don't know if everybody knows everything about everything that's going on on campus. So suffice to say, the campus has never been empty since this whole thing kicked off. We've probably had at least 50 facilities, people that are there around the clock to run the power plant as well as some folks in IT. That man is to keep the server room going. And throughout this, there's been then in a minute, responses for, for failure. As we begin to re-imagine the campus, we are starting to deploy more and more of our trades of amino adult facilities. Just for some, for instance, things that they're doing is flushing water and water sampling and make sure when we do get back into buildings that the sanitation systems were we've ordered, I think as of last week, 3600 sanitizing stations will probably have 3600 more to order. But the idea will be with, in concert with our health professionals to have those sanitizing stations outside of doors. I'm not sure what the frequency or distances yet. I'll work with my colleagues in Health on that. We've ordered a total now of 50 thousand cloth face mass, 30 thousand for faculty and staff, and 20 thousand for students. Should we need mass for visitors need mass to comply with the protocol. They'll be there if you've been on campus, I actually just yesterday, first time in about six weeks, I did walk the other day just to see if anything was still bolted down. There's quite a bit of construction going on. The north drain now is under undo. I won't say repaired the infrastructure steam pipe work the other side towards a library in the fountain is beginning to come back to life as that projects complete as far as other projects looking forward to or not looking forward to this year, Robin mentioned, you know, the various financial scenarios that are being planned. So obviously some of the things projects we had planned to do next year though great projects, they're not critical per se is could they go or not. We've prioritized stuff by health and safety primarily. So if a project could slip 12 months and not have any health and safety factor, it's very likely it's going to slip. Now I don't want everybody to panic. Like I've had discussions with the President. If, you know, new faculty member comes in and is trying to get their research going or the room and says, hey, I need a power strip here or an outlet there. Of course we're still going to do that kind of stuff, but, but some more robust projects probably are not going to happen this next year. We try to figure out where we are financially. And then I like to look at things as short-term, mid-term, and long-term. So short term is to get the campus turned around, so to include residence hall, so we can begin accepting people basically in mid August, which is when folks would come back for RAs and whoever to to do their pre. And so everything is charging towards that date. Once we get into that. I'm sure there's gotta be some adjustments. I mean, are we in phase one, phase two, phase three, I think Delaware. It goes to Phase two next week and the numbers go up on what's authorized as far as assembly and not as far as occupancy and knot, it is all connected, all complicated. And we're working very closely with arrow mark. What type of food service will we be able to provide our students? I can take the EPA Fe is gone. That will be there at least for this next year. So whether it's Grab and Go or capacity to sit, I know when I talk to my colleagues in student health, student life, the worst thing, they wanted students to be isolated and grab a meal and go back to the room again, they need some socialization. So suffice it to say, these projects, these models will be run throughout the summer, will be prepared for the worst. We hope for the best. And we're there to support the faculty and the students. That's her job on my side of the house. And we'll continue on. On the positive note. If you have been on campus, it's beautiful. As usual. I will tell you, I saw students sunning on the north green across the street, as well as walking around. And out of about nine people, I was the only one with a mask. So I think we will have some cultural issues to overcome next year as we put health and safety first as to those that want to wear mass versus those that may not have an option if they want to wear a math. So that's it in a nutshell. Mad a lot, a lot of things move in. Sanitation is, is key. We're trying to do an analysis now as to what the standards are because I will tell you as simple as this sounds, and you hear it every night on the news. There are no standards. When we look at CDC and we look at other institutions, do I wipe a door handle once every hour? Wipe it once a day. Do I wipe it twice a day? Do I clean restrooms 12 times a day? Every hour or once a day. I think you can go to a 100 institutions and you'll find probably 98 answers to probably be the same. And so we struggling, but we're listening to the science and to our scientists to provide the safest environment and we can and to manage expectations. And that'll do it matter unless something else. >> Great, great guys out. I know. I appreciate your your time and effort, everything your staff been doing throughout the transition and the urgency you're moving through this summer to have us ready. My apologies. In my introduction, I introduced John Morgan. My apologies, John John Wong, Executive Vice President. So again, thank you, John, for taking the time to come speak today. Before moving to the agenda, I would just like to as far as my comments are concerned, I just would like to go on record that was not in favor of calling this meeting today. Senators organized petition and secured the signatures required in order to have the meeting call before proceeding. I would just like to state my reasons for the opposition to the meeting. My opposed to meeting for the for the resolution coming forward are very straightforward and were viewed as minor. And when I say mind, there was not much still a deliberation either in the emergency taskforce that had been formed and where the executive committee minor enough that it was worth calling the full Senate. And the executive candidate, he could act on behalf of them rather than calling the full Senate to vote on those items. I opposed meaning for the word emergencies entitled The task force, where as faculty we may not see something. It's urgent, but it's the imputation is what takes time. So the sooner decisions are made, the more time for that action. When I supported the resolution for the creation of emergency taskforce, I thought others would have an appreciation for moving quickly in an emergency type situation. In fact, one of the resolutions we had today, it was time-sensitive and I took it based on being positive discussion both in the Taskforce and within the executive committee that I communicate that I did not see opposition. There was a party that wanted wanted to decision, needed decision to begin to act. And so we bypassed one that decision I post. This is our respect for you, my colleagues, URLS to take on an added burden professionally semester many you've had personal challenges along with those of your profession. And continue to deal with both professional and personal challenges as you prepare for an uncertain fall. The call and the meeting would have been in and around faunal times. Win-wins. Originally call I signed up to be present as members of the executive committee. I would like to think that what will be accomplished today was accomplished at the executive committee. I was not trying to undermine the role the full Senate, but being respectful of its members times and their commitments I posed to me because every decision that was made in the spring at faculty input and was done with the best interests of safety, a safe and the well-being of our students and faculty, and was done to ensure the viability of the University. Means we're not the, not defined by what side you're on, but rather by people who all just wanted what was best on at a time constraints and the circumstances. So as I stated today, I did oppose today's meeting and those were the reasons for that opposition. And I just would like to add after hearing a provost Morgan's comments that it was a pleasure to work with Provost Morgan this spring. I took her at her word because she everything she said was she was was a forthright and again, it was a true partnership and it was about the university. And so again, that's weight into my opposition for the meeting. I'd I'd like to think an excellent relationship was form that was both. Faculty administration moving forward was doing was best for the, uh, for the for the university at the maid, meaning I said It was my honor and privilege to serve as president. And I do still feel that and know that my decision deposes meetings were good for good intentions. I was very proud of the efforts of my colleagues who have stepped up and ensured that we completed this semester. And I'm inspired by the willingness of all of you to do what it takes to continue the academic offerings this fall. >> Thank you. >> Moving to the agenda. There is no consent agenda. It's no unfinished business. Who are the new business? We have resolution number one We have a recommendation for an emergency taskforce with concurrently the executive committee for the approval of resolution concerning test optional for all students applying permissions for fall 2021. >> Israeli discussion here, none. >> Are we ready for the you about an uncle? >> I cannot see questions. Yeah. >> We have a question from Lynn. I'm on my polygons. >> Matta-clark on yes. >> Senator Kang, Ma Cunningham. >> Good God centered on question question was very simple. >> That the we have experimented with admitting Delaware students without these tests. >> What, what criteria will now be used to assess the quality of education from other states. Given the fact that we don't have such great knowledge of schools in Arizona or Hawaii or whether India by schools. So how will we determine which students to reject and whom to give scholarships? >> Robert, as I'm checking to see, is Dougherty Well, I down or niggly? >> Allen Fox is raising his hand. I think I'm Derek there rather med I'll I'll just pitch in and say there are other measures that we can look at. It isn't just a test score on and said we can look at grade performance, the essays, the recommendations, different types of things, so to say, there are other things to look at that are not just simply a test score, but I think Alan's raising is here and did I see an interim spread hops? >> Yeah. >> We're all just going to say the same thing as that for years. I mean, my involvement with the honors program and admission was through recruitment events, is that increasingly the VSATs have been increasingly less and less importance. >> And so many other factors are, are relevant, including what, you know, what opportunities are available at those institutions, and what did they take advantage of them? >> And frankly, I I will say that >> I can't speak for the current emissions. >> Others because I just don't know enough about them. >> But in the past, they made a real effort to know the high school. >> So the students are coming from, it's not, it's not as big of a mystery as you might think. >> I mean, I do think that there are definitely places that they don't know about, but they have ways of finding out. And there are comparative measures that they use. >> And frankly, it's becoming increasingly clear that those tests have so much bias that they're almost useless at this point. >> At least you know what we know now. >> Well, I'm Fred, Fred offset or do you have a comment? >> Routes that comment speak for itself in the in the chat because in next Charlie Trotter interview next, it looks like my microphones been activated. >> Again, I can always make a comment that so in this case, another reason for this to be passed is that ETS has sort of pulled the plug on the home administering of the SAT. >> And that's because of problems of equity of students being technologically able to take the SAT at home. >> So many students now in the midst of this pandemic are simply unable to take the SAT. >> And that was, I think, part of the Oregon the case that was made by by admissions office. Trevor, you had a comment. I did not know. >> My apologies, I'm misread MET So I got Dan Stevens, editor or single Smith I think hasn't Robinson. >> I think Steve had it a question. >> Beth, was that question for a while. >> It could. Yeah, there's more here, but I immediately document reader if we want to in terms of it's not it's not with respect to this particular issue that we're talking about. >> Okay. >> Then centered a comment. >> Like to make another comment hole before. Is there anyone else who has another comment? >> We go back to Senator con trolley, bucks life and Jamie, we unmute and trolley bus. Okay. >> I figure I'd think I'm good now. >> I just wanted to sort of echo Senator Collins comments. >> I'm not in general, I'm not in favor of this policy. I'd like to see the SATs as part of the admission process. >> However, in this case, it is an issue that students this spring, we're unable to take the SATs and may not be able to get them. Taken in time in the fall for in time for our fall admissions process. So the Admissions Office specifically asked, and in this case, can we extend the SAT optional policy to everybody because of the problems this spring taking the SAT, this idea. So I support the resolution as it stands, but in general, I'm not in favor of the idea. Any other questions, comments? I'll go back to center. Caught. >> My question then is, if it's such a smart thing, then why don't we get rid of it now permanently? >> Why is it smart in 2021 and not smart footprint? You 22 I think the one thing and I think there's a response and when I got to chat. But one thing to I want to emphasize across all these resolution, these are all temporary, that they for the current the current situation and then there'll be reevaluated, I think two things after the emergency situations over it may be done away with if it worked better than it may be considered as something permanent. But this, remember, is a temporary, acting temporarily in terms of the, the, the class for this coming year. And I think linux geeky had talked in terms of some of the standards that are being considered because of the SAT not being being test optional. Victor Perez. >> Hi. I'd like to recognize Tammy Anderson from one department to speak. >> Hi everybody. This is this is connected to the SAT issue. I know when Provost Morgan's foe in answer to the question of what are the criteria will be considered with respect to admissions and job? That that might be something the administration is considering, what those things might be. I want to raise the possibility to be very sensitive to not choose other criteria. Rich cultural capital that upperclass for middle-class students who are involved in honors programs or IB programs in high school might also have an advantage in, and that might disadvantage other students. And then the second part is, will those other criteria, once they are articulated by the university, be made known to perspective. I suppose to In other words, if students are going to be evaluated core participating in service as the criteria for admission or make them to be aware that that's so think they ought to be putting in their experience. >> Other comments, questions. Any other comments or questions? >> Cinguga Khan has one more. >> Okay. But I know he's spoken twice as mature as anyone else. It has chance to speak. See you then. Okay. >> Seneca emitted every time we talk about excluding these test, we talk about equity issues and then we make it optional. >> So why would there were lots of kids who might have taken it before CO, it. And if you have very high scores, there might be a prejudice towards those who are submitting. >> So I submit that we do not consider SAP. There's told this time, regardless of those who have taken it or not, instead of saying making it optional. So one file comes in with SAT's and one file does not come in with their cities. I know it will raise the average SAT for our schools than why mini schools make it optional so that people with high SAT submit and people with low SATs do not submit scores. So if this is about just this year, why not just exclude SATs completely? >> Why include SAT scores of those who were rich or smart enough to take it before covered are vast. >> There you go. I just think you're handicapping the admissions office if you don't allow them to get whatever information they can get. I think the extraordinary circumstances we're under now is that not everybody was able to take the test. And it's not even a matter of class access or anything like that. The fact is some people are willing to take the tests until a time when they were no longer an option. So the fact is, I don't think it makes sense not to allow the admissions office to consider that information. >> I do think to some extent we're kind of second guessing the admissions office and assuming that they're gonna get preferential. Poor people who've taken the test under the extra, especially extraordinary circumstances we're under now. >> So again, this is only for this, this period of time. >> Everything melted are saying, I think is well considered. In other words, we should take the time to think about it and rethink the whole process. >> But the immediate concern is the students who were unable to take the test, and students who took the test and paid for it thinking that it was going to make a difference. >> So I do think we have both sets of concerns to consider. >> Any more discussion? >> Now, announce. >> I'm centered around a common center god. >> Before Matthew says that algorithm, I should take it outside of my last comment. Allen started by saying that the test is useless. >> It is useless, and that is why you are against its being inclusion. Then why allow it to be considered by that either it is valuable or it is not valuable. >> If it is valuable in decision-making, than it is giving an advantage to those who were lucky enough to take it. >> But if it is not valuable, then we should not included at all because it might I am sure that everything equal you have a student with 50-150 there. >> It is going to prejudice the admissions officers who, no matter what they say, have students with 3.8 GPA and other students with 3.8 GPA we don't know much about. The school's. One is from Arizona, one is from an American school in Kuwait, but one has a 15 tons on SAT, there is going to be sway their advantage to that student. >> And so either tests or have no value. >> If they do have value, then we should equalize for us. >> So everywhere thrush, jamie, I mean, this is Dr. Suresh has a comment here. >> I would like to say, you know, what you think about either we can leave it as is, which means cities are required, okay? >> Or make it optional, or council tried to cancel it. We have to be very certain that this is the right decision. >> Have you thought about how do we have enough information about it? >> I mean, I currently support SAP's being included, but Carlos Taylor wanted to make it optional. >> Okay, so I don't think there's enough information to decide either to sort of money ignoring completely are definitely required. >> So we have to go with the best possible option right now, which is to make it optional, rapid already happened information to decide any other way. Thank you, sir. >> I have a question and I have a comment about an earlier comment. >> He made one for the current year when we waived the SAT requirement. >> Were there additional standards that were applied to Delaware students that we're applying? >> And if so, what were they right. >> And second, if this is the criteria that is being proposed, that they should have a minimum of 3.5 GPA and they should have evidence of rigorous courses and high grades in those courses of grades a, B, or higher, and honors and AP level courses and so on. >> And they are required to complete additional essays. >> Ike, I am little bit concerned that this gives advantage to students that have access to resources. So you, there are schools that where students may not have access to additional resources and consequently don't have those kinds of high GPAs or access to IB, core, API level courses. >> I mean, I know that there are certain schools that offer up to five or six API level courses right through the high school. >> And my daughter, for example, is taking four in our tenth, grade, two in our in our ninth, and so on, and has an option of taking anything up to six API level courses and the inner 12th and a senior year that may not be the case. >> And other schools. >> So is that by doing that, we are placing, giving certain students and unfair advantage. >> So if these are the standards that we are applying, then not only do we, do we have to accept the fact that we are raising our overall standards. I mean, this would be a 3.5 GPA with all these requirements, would probably also basically required that a student has a GPA of 330. And under the Dutch, basically the equivalence that I, that I think I'm getting it. >> Yeah, I think that needs to be considered as an Robinson. >> The questions and I think we've had we had the question call. Can I go? And I have John Jesus second for the call. Can we think about the question of favor? Those are currently good. >> Just wait. >> Formed or can we make sure we have enough? >> We have enough NAC. >> Okay. Okay. We convert question. So again, voting voting on the resolution that would be going up. A poll would be voting yes. >> Jamie, cover both gas in favor of the test. >> Object for all students and no oppose. We have 53 votes and we have Brian, you have your you have the numbers by good. Okay. The resolution passes. >> Yeah, I'm good. >> Thanks. >> Frankly, gay. >> Second resolution. Recommendation for >> The taskforce with concurrent to the executive committee, the approval of resolution concern a temporary removal, A2 online, worst limit. >> And there is the resolution. >> Is there any discussion and I'm calling down the allowing the tribe on-site. >> We can you we internally breathe harmful in this resolution is coming from the assistant deans of the various colleges. >> There's currently a requirement that the students can only take two online courses per semester. If a student wants to take more than that, they go to their assistant dean and get a waiver. So assistant deans are currently processing waivers. >> The anticipation would be in the fall, a great many students may require this waiver. >> So the assists Indians are basically asking for this resolution as a way to simplify their workload. >> And honestly, you know, given the hundreds or thousands, tens of thousands of students that are going to need to have this waver. >> It might take weeks for the assistant deans to actually process all of them. >> So that's what this this resolution is about. >> It's it's basically to codify and existing practice and make it easier for discussion. >> Yep. >> Seneca, how does this impact full-time? >> All campus data of if students are getting, taking all the four courses online, do they have to come to campus or do will they will they come to campus and still take three or four classes online. Or they can stay at home, take four courses online through this option in the world. >> Our thoughts comment, Yeah, I think didn't we pick a vote on that last at the last senate meeting where I'm having a senior moment here, what was the issue again? >> Because I am going to have to remember that so that some of the things that were passed in the spring the spring ended, they need to be renewed. So I do I do think you're correct that that was those questions about that. >> And Robert prose more things. >> So we need to do this for a number of reasons. >> We're trying to give every student who wants a face-to-face experience that at least some of it, that we know from the outset that about 50% of our courses are going to have to be online in any way because of their size and her room capacity. >> You also have to be able to accommodate students who for health reasons cannot be in percent and classes. >> We have international students who we're, we've put together a program so that they can do things online. So just because we offer face-to-face doesn't mean every single undergraduate. We can have undergraduates who are immunosuppressed, who have various reasons that they can do face-to-face. >> And finally, I think we should be aware that we are likely to have cases on campus. >> And when we do, those students will need to be quarantine. That doesn't mean their whole class would be online, but, but quite a bit of it could be depending on your situation. >> So these are these are unprecedented times. >> And as a comment, Yeah, just 1 to go back to what we did test in May was that the idea was that we changed residency at the University to at UD two from yogi. >> So an online class from a residency point of view, and whether or not they're on campus or off campus is no longer a point that was changed last and that was not a temporary changes. I believe it That was permanent change in the registrar requirements. >> Rusty, thanks for bringing that up. >> So that the password that resolution I hadn't yet in terms of the online online courses from other institutions. >> Yes. >> I was just curious if we're talking only about whatever you also review D, Or if this applies to all online courses from other institutions, online schools, that sort of thing as well. I'm going to say that based upon and I don't know, Robert, if you want to answer that, but based upon like we're talking about the this coming from our assistant deans in focusing on the university delaware requirement. >> But I don't think it has I don't think Leave it has to do with any transfer credits that are external. >> No, I don't have anything outstanding anymore. >> Anymore. >> Discussion is Jose. >> Every arrow has to handle. I'm sorry, Jose. I was just responding to Senator Russell's inquiry. >> I did that in the chat. >> Okay. >> Great. Thanks for that. Okay. Anymore discussion hearing on are we ready to vote? Okay. >> Using the polling feature. All in favor? >> Bogues and those opposed no parent. >> I think we were at fizzy through of where I think we're probably weren't 53. Alright. >> Okay. >> Resolution passes. Okay. >> Recommendation numeracy taskforce with conquers, the executive committee for the approval of resolution concern the common exam times that we Handbook Section 3.1 for examinations and tests. You look at it. It's just a extension of the test times. >> Is there any discussion? >> Is there any discussion? >> Okay. >> Hearing none ready to vote on favorite passing the resolution regarding common exam time. Ok. We have 50 boat zinc and D1. >> E1 resolution passes. >> Brian, you get scout when this era with the ones you don't like it resolution were recommendation for the emergency taskforce, currently the executive committee for the approval of the resolution concerning teaching online classes, battery Handbook, Section 3.1.1 for resolution, and then seeing the attachment of where the changes made. >> Is there any discussion and feel free if you need to scroll anywhere on that, please let me know. >> Is there any discussion okay. >> Hearing none. I've already though using the polling feature all unfavorable. >> Yes, those pose vote no and intensity to the 15 until again, you could run. >> I've got it. >> They recommendation five for co-sponsoring centers that are listed for the approval of the resolution to allow factly the option to teach courses online the fall 202020. >> Is there any discussion? >> Galileo, please. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. >> Now, this this was a response to fears by a number of faculty that they might actually be forced to teach courses online. And I know that Provost Morgan stated that faculty will not be forced to teach or to teach in person. They will not be forced to teaching in person. And so a number of the senators develop this resolution. Now, this morning I said the Executive Committee or revision we would like to have considered. And it looks like you did not put that up. Like we ask for you to do that. So I'd like to propose make emotion. And it's been seconded by these co-sponsors that there'll be a revision to this resolution that says, instead of in a classroom format, let me see it in. So changes you. >> I know you have the resolution, so I'd like to ask you to put it up on one secondary yes. >> To just change in classroom in a classroom setting to in-person settings with several examples. Because it was pointed out by a senator that a classroom is not the only place that someone might be in close contact with students. And would fear contracting the virus. And so it was, the venues were broadened to not just include classroom. And so this this is, is if you want other people that are on here to second this, I'm making this emotion, but it already came to you, seconded by the co-sponsors of this resolution as this this being the resolution that we'd like to have consider today for a vote with accepting it as is Danny. >> Next time christianity gave a little bit more to 40, but I'm fine with that thing, which will be votre. Alright, thank you. >> And so there's there's there was a a clarification put out by Vice Provost cancer vague about the use of this form. And that addresses the Americans with Disabilities Act. And the problem with that is that faculty still have voiced concerns about putting private medical information when they've not been told by the DSS office how that information would be used. Another concern is that the DSS office personnel or not trained to consider this sort of circumstance because of fear of contracting a virus just simply is not a disability. The Americans with Disabilities Act just simply doesn't apply here. So it's still a mystery to me why this form for an accommodation based on the Americans with Disabilities Act is being used and hasn't been explained fully how it was going to be used, what was going to be done with the information that faculty filled out. So there's there's a number of faculty that are voiced concerns over filling out this form to be considered. And it seems it is still the only way if you can't work something out with your chair, that this is the only mechanism that faculty have to, to to to voice their concerns in the request other than talking to their chair, which some people may not feel comfortable doing that either. So this resolution just simply states that if the faculty get to use their own good judgment for determining whether they would like to teach a course in person or not. >> And if not, there's not, it doesn't specify in this resolution how the faculty member would let the chair? >> No, but I would just imagine it would be a simple email if we pass this, that they state that they're not comfortable with teaching an in-person course, and it's as simple as that. So I think this resolution is needed. It may not be required if everything works as provost Morgan said it should. But as we all know, sometimes things don't work as people say they should. And so that's why this resolution is is being put forward. And also, there is a section besides the part of our Hr policy. In the Whereas is there is a part of the CBA article 18 that simply says the university agrees to continue to make reasonable provisions for the safety and health and bargaining unit members in pursuit of very universally recognized professional responsibilities on university promises. And the use of that accommodation request form by AAUP is that it's not a It is it is not a reasonable provision for the fears of faculty for contracting the virus. But this resolution that's being put forward right now is a reasonable provision for addressing faculties concerns. >> Thank you. On archive, I cannot support Danny's proposal. >> Out it stands. I can support of aviation, lmfit. I agree that the faculty have a right to have a healthy situation where they can teach, but they do not have the right to teach a specific course online. They can request for accommodation and the chair may choose to give them another cause because for the department may be immortal to teach a particular inputs. >> So what, the way identity resolution is tailored to Richard. >> It says that faculty have the option of choosing a specific course and teach it online, even if your partner doesn't want them to. >> So I think it's a little too rigid. Minoans supported. >> Okay. Thank you. Added I believe has a comment defining Okay. Thank you. I'd like to speak in favor of this proposal. >> I think it should actually replace the the the idea that the DSS office should make decisions about who should teach online or not. >> Anybody who has been following the news the last three months? >> No, nobody knows who is really at risk of dying of corvid 19. >> So nobody at DSS can really know whether someone is justified medically in protecting myself by teaching online. And also it's just completely alone. >> So I wouldn't I would not trust that this has to make that decision for me. >> I thought I don't think anyone knows who's at risk. >> So the only solution to that is simply let people themselves decide whether they want to be put themselves at risk on out. So that's why Denis Denis solution. >> Thank you. >> Other comments or I need a bit of information. >> I want to know if there is any pressure on chairs to have a certain number of courses in, in class because I'm teaching a graduate seminar with just eight students. And I'm also teaching an undergraduate with 30. >> And I to choose the graduate seminar online because I can see all eight students right there. >> It's much more easier for me and graduate students are engaged with a bigger class, it becomes a bit problematic. >> And with undergraduates, I was reluctant to be. But from my conversations with the chair, I realized that he would be much, much happier if I taught both of them in person. And so sensing that I agreed, and I kept wondering why the preference armchairs under pressure to has many in-person classes or is there some hidden encoder that it has? >> Numbers have been determined that we don't know. >> Sarah, I know you asked, but I'm gonna go with Provost Morgan was maybe she's going to be responding to the questions and then Suresh, URI can hear me OK. >> So there's no quota to chairs for white to teach online. >> This is being determined by the sizes, of course, isn't the rooms we have available. >> So it is pi i don't know individual circumstances, but I think somebody somebody else talked about that there may be some courses that departments we'd rather have in-person our horse to some face-to-face keep in mind with this plan, a face-to-face course has some line, but no, there are no quotas. >> And also chairs do have the option. If so, right now, only the undergrad classes between 2549 students will be part face-to-face in the grad classes won't be. >> But if a department chair has, has a lot of faculty who, who can't teach face-to-face or don't feel comfortable teaching face-to-face. >> And they have some extra slots they can swap in graduate classes. >> So there could be some of those graduate classes that are, that are face-to-face, keep in mind the number of classes that we have that are greater than 50 students is what? >> 49 students is a lot. So we have many, many classrooms. They don't, we can put less than ten people in. These will provide opportunities for online classes that are maybe a 100 students that can't meet in person, perhaps with TAs or different types of discussion groups that can be broken out in things that can be face-to-face. >> So there are a lot of creative solutions that people can come up. >> Come up with there is no intent to force people into class B are uncomfortable doing so. >> And there is no quantity than anybody has to make. >> We will, we are limited by our routines and our RAM capacity has been reduced by at least 75%. >> And maybe more. >> Suresh, I believe you have your hand up if they're good. >> Okay. >> Okay. I want actually add one other point that has been brought to my attention by several of my colleagues in my department. >> That being that the current policy, even the current statement that we have there only talks about health risks to the faculty member themselves. But there are multiple situations where faculty members have other haves, the spouses who potentially have underlying conditions that puts them at higher risk and therefore prefer to teach online. There are also situations where they have patent staying with them and so on. >> But more importantly, the other point that was also brought up was the fact that, you know, having to having someone require require required to submit the ADA form in case they are unable to get to an agreement with the chair. >> Ada does not consider a family member's risk or even somebody who is over 65, basically saying that that visibility that I have. So it's really not a disability. So that concern was raised as well by several of my colleagues and I think having someone fill out the form because they have a disagreement with the Chair on jaded. >> I'm willing to agree with them. >> I don't see that happening, at least not in our in our departments, but, you know, there could be that concern and other departments I think that needs to be addressed. >> So I think this this resolution is important to address that, but I think it needs to go beyond to actually clarify. >> It's any kind of risk associated to the faculty member or members of their family that could be put at risk. >> Parents who are living in nursing homes are older parents that they have to go and visit? Could be any number of situations. >> I think provost maria Yeah, I just wanted to embed instructions that rent two chairs. >> This takes care not only on someone's age or their own medical condition, that ASA insignificant caregiver responsibilities. >> So we we'd hope to be very mindful of that. Again, the form is optional for most people. >> This should work out with the conversation with their chair. >> But trees, we need to understand that we may have people who are unwilling to reveal and should not feel obligated to reveal their own health health issues, or those are the spouse. And say, we're trying to ask, give people many ways to take care of this on this is not a plot to try to make people do something that is, is inappropriate for them or that they don't feel comfortable doing. >> Again, hand up. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. >> And that's very gratifying to hear what Provost Morgan just said. But again, this could be one of the many ways that faculty get to request, not teaching in person. And Suresh, I did forget to mention the way the resolution is written. It says would be taking in unnecessary medical risk. It does not mean just to themselves. It was made to include to those that they might take home the virus to being a carrier event. So this was meant to include that this is not limited to just being about a risk to themselves because it doesn't specify that. It just says an unnecessary medical risk. And at B, were taken care of in immunocompromised person in your family, you would think that you were taking an unnecessary medical risk. So it fits in to that. And I have mixed feelings about what Rakesh was talking about with that course in an online format. And, and maybe you might want to strike that course. But then again, we were all forced to teach your courses online in the spring, and we might all have to do that again in the fall. So theoretically, and of course we're offering has to be able to be taught completely online. So it's not a big issue. And there really is no such thing as we can't teach certain courses online because we all have to be potentially ready for teaching every course on why that's one of the contingency plans that we have to be ready for. So I think that we should just leave this as it is. >> Thank you, Stephen. >> Rather Daphne downsized. >> Actually, I'm sorry. >> My apologies. It's fine. >> I I'd like to just support this because one of our faculty members tried to get the form filled out by medical provider and because it did not have language about someone within the household and their medical conditions. They were unable to fill out the form. So Weaver also had faculty members who have attempted to go through the system to have the form as a background and security, but they're unable to because the form is actually addressed as the individual rather than any caretaking responsibilities or individuals in the household. So I'm just reporting. What was that? >> Thanks, Stephanie. My apologies again. >> And then it just to clarify, you said in your amendment what was assumed to be understood. >> It wasn't included. >> It says that resolved and unnecessary medical risk while teaching an unnecessary medical risk. It doesn't specify that an unnecessary it doesn't say an unnecessary medical risk to themselves. It says an unnecessary medical risk, which means that in in their good judgment, if they believe that they're going to be creating an unnecessary medical risks for themselves or others that's included in this. This is not meant to be limited to be an unnecessary medical risk just to themselves. And it doesn't say that. >> Does anyone know that you made reference to the human resource policy? >> If that's what is men and that human resource policy, well, whereas is you can have resolutions in the Board of Trustees passes many milli resolutions every meeting of theirs with no whereas the Whereas is, are not are not that important. It's good to have them to give background. >> We've given a lot of background. >> I do not know. I believe this is exactly it says that you're not supposed to take just like when we have inclement weather year, it's up to your judgment whether you think you're gonna put yourself in danger and coming to work on campus if the campus is not close to teach your courses or do whatever else you need to do for your job. And that's a decision you make. And this is believe that, that's that unless extreme weather and emergency conditions, we are in emergency condition still, right? We could have put reference E CBA article 18 in there just as easily and doesn't doesn't matter. >> Just for clarification for for all that you add that in as we were going through it, but I don't think that was made clear what was written. Other comments? >> Hearing none. >> Game football on February the amount the resolution to our faculty teach courses online and Karen, were the numbers, Brian? >> Yeah. The numbers. >> Resolution versus introduction of new business >> So again, an economy. >> And what I'm going to move on to how you think I am. >> Yes, you have it on the agenda to amend the Constitution. It requires that there be an announcement of the intact to amend the Constitution at a regular or special, previous regular or special meeting of the Senate. This goes beyond that since you put that resolution on the, on this, this agenda so people can see exactly what the amendment to the constitution will be. Since this is introduction of new business, there can be no discussion of it, but it's clear what is intended and we can discuss it at the at the at at at the meeting, the next meeting. >> So everyone is where. >> Okay. Any other new business? >> I have a question. This is Rakesh from the math department surrogate. >> So I don't know if I'm allowed to ask the question which is unrelated to introducing a new item agenda, but I'd be deliberations or the minutes of the deliberations of the Executive Committee available like so. >> For example, when we got this request to all this meeting, I did not know what was discussed in the Executive Committee or what was decided, what was the ward? So it's available for key members of the Senate. >> Brian, do you keep the minutes for executives? >> No, I do not keep minutes for executive. >> I'll keep inmates. >> But yeah, I'm gonna got carried takes and keeps notes during executive committee meetings. >> What are they made available to the Senate? >> Guarantee. You know, that's okay. >> I can make them available like we used to put them on the Senate website, but then that was discussed in exact and we don't we no longer put them the exact minutes up or I do have needs that I can share with you. I wasn't happy elastic executive committee meeting. >> So I don't have notes from the last I mean, I really when I was trying to decide whether to watch for having this meeting or not. >> I had some impression of what professing the executive committee meeting, but I really didn't have good thoughts. >> So I mean, I wouldn't 14 payment if all the full resolutions, but I felt that there was some people in the Executive Committee who were wanted this meeting to be held. >> And I don't know what the truth I really not sure. >> So Charlie boss, lady like speak. Yeah, I'd like to address the debt. What Dennie senator Galileo brought up a couple of minutes ago, the whole day, another special meeting to discuss this constitutional change. >> First of all, I believe that the Senate needs to vote at this point to hold another special beating. >> And that would require a 50% approval of the senators. >> While I'm generally in favor of the constitutional change, although I think it should be discussed. I'm not actually in favor of holding a special meeting to to have that to discuss that constitutional change. >> In my mind, this change can wait until the regular meetings of the fall semester. >> And that we should reserve space farmer for things that are truly special in a in an emergency nature. >> In my mind, this resolution can wait until the fall. >> I know others disagree with me, but I just wanted to get that out there and, and perhaps started discussion. >> And Rakesh, I don't know if you're interested or the general sense of the interested in the general sense of the conversation was. >> But I think in my opening remarks, I communicated that I was opposed to the meeting. >> I think the four items that had gone through another with some discussion in regards to the test optional piece. But like I said, I was trying to be respectful of the of our of the senators times. >> And then I believe the last resolution that was added there was not in that in that executive committee meeting where I was discussed whether or not we're going to have me. So I think the resolution that's coming forward as an adjustment to kind of constitution was me acting in my, what is my right as president of the senate not to call me. And so as I said, there are senators who took the the process of having the petition and request. >> But again, I felt that what was discussed at the the taskforce, there's ample faculty input on that task force. >> I think in general, at the meeting, the Executive Committee, there was general agreement that have you seen in terms of no brainer and that pretty much yeah, we'll move moving forward with them. >> So again, beam I think mostly being respectful of everyone else's times. I was very much opposed as far as the meeting was called satellite. >> That helps you in getting you the sense that yeah, yeah. >> Whoa, whoa. On the petition that we senators submitted to the Executive Council, one of the purposes of the meeting was to have definitely have a vote on whether we were going to have Another special meeting within seven to 14 days. That was part of the petition. It's not on here on this agenda as a boat like what was petition now, so this is not the way it's stated on this agenda is not. Right. One of the several reasons for calling in petitioning for that meeting specifically was to have a bow on whether we wouldn't hold a meeting within seven to 14 days. So there needs to be a vote today on whether we're going to hold another leading and seven to 14 days because that was part of the petition. >> Okay. I think we're aside for the misinterpretation and I'm sorry, I didn't catch it when the agenda was set out, he would welcome feedback. >> Jamie, do we have an extra pole, the pole for you before we go again, any discussion about having a special meeting seven to 14 days from this meeting to discuss the amending the Constitution and any other resolutions put forth by Sanders and or executive committee. Given that I just wanted to run a current I think you slightly misspoke there, Matt. >> We're voting on right now whether it has a special meaning for this particular constitutional resolution. >> Even if we vote no not to have that special meeting, there may still be a need for a special meeting for other things that may arise after this point. So I just want to clarify that I think you misspoke, but Inc you know, I said any of that. >> I said on amending the Constitution and any other resolution put forth by centers? >> Yes, that was part of the request. >> That was the wording that was turned in on the petition. Specifically, he read that verbatim. Didn't you met? >> I did yesterday. So this rubbish from the Mth compartment. >> So I'm just not sure. Whatever you're working on to having meetings happened to put India's folk walk unless this completely wouldn't be voting on any. >> Would you like to SF? >> Yes. >> Thank you. This this is and when you amend the Constitution, there's a time there, there's a time frame. You have to wait at least seven if I'm remembering correctly, you have to wait a certain at least seven days before you are, you have to have an agenda come out that says what? To going to all faculty. That's a notice of your intent to amend the Constitution. So this timeframe is in line with, with the, the conditions for amending the constitution that are in the Constitution itself. And so we wanted to have this done as soon as possible. You also have to submit a an agenda for the meeting at least seven days, and at bats that seven days in advance. So that what we will be voting on Rakesh, if we vote to have another special meeting within seven to 14 days, it will be to decide on the resolution that is followed in the red line document of changing Section 1.10.4.6 on faculty senate meetings, providing for another couple ways that a special meeting could be called, Including by majority vote of the executive. >> So we're voting now on whether to call a meeting to considered that resolution to amend the constitution anymore discussion, Jamie? >> Good book by Paul pleased that we have one more bumps are complements your hands. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. >> The question. So why is this? Although most of them are leaving camera, then it doesn't respond well. One example could be what has already happened. So if there are recommendations that come out of the now Academic Affairs Committee, which the emergency academic regulations taskforce morphed into, that need to be considered by the Faculty Senate. And the Senate president does not wish to call a senate meeting, then that's a problem. That's why we submitted this petition to begin with, to have this meeting. So to me, it makes sense to go ahead and change the constitution so that there, if the majority of the executive committee feels like there needs to be a special senate meeting, then they can vote to do that. Or if another part of the faculty handbook requires that there be a special meeting, that resolution that we passed about the emergency academic regulations task force and our regular ME Senate meeting said whenever recommendations come out of that task force that they have to be considered immediately, faculty senate meeting and voted on, and that didn't happen. >> So these are corrections to what has occurred. >> And as far as I know, those are the only that's the only section of the faculty handbook that has a stipulation that triggers automatically a special Faculty Senate meeting. Nevertheless, there could, there probably are going to be recommendations that need to be considered by the Faculty Senate that come out of that task force. And it, and it, it should be automatic that the Faculty Senate needs to, to consider and vote on them, cuz that's what we passed in May, that there's an automatic trigger when recommendations come out of that task force. >> Does that answer your question? >> Okay. Q. >> And if I may comment, I don't know if it's appropriate. Not John John jab, but in speaking as president about again, that resolution that was passed, my mistake on assuming that good judgment be used to understanding the word emergency and idea that the hopes were for expediency sake to rely upon the Executive Committee and that if there were urging that we would have or significant that would call the full Senate in that we would have discretion but to look at minor things and disregard the fact that there was urgency. My apologies for supporting that resolution because I thought that people would use better judgment that so Danny, my thoughts are your you're entitled to have the vote here, but also you're also entitled petition again. >> If if again, I rule that I don't think there should be a meeting. >> So changing the Constitution, and you can bet on that kind of good to get an evening's fault. >> Any anymore comments? >> Get Jamie. >> And so again, we're voting on whether or not John jab, What do we voting on all about? >> Okay. >> I've got below voting on whether or not to hold them another meeting in seven to 14 days for the express purpose of voting on the amendment to the constitution. And the amendment of the Constitution deals with when meetings get call. >> There were actually voting pull another meeting to immediate to work on this constitutional matter cut. >> And as of now, there is no items that will be coming forward from emergency taskforce. >> And that's not to say there will be. That's not to say that there won't be. Ok. >> Jenny bullwhip with good gallery of all votive. Yes, 25. Dale and error looks like 25 to 23, so we have 52%. >> Okay. Okay. >> Any other business? >> Okay. During lunch motion then the meanings all favor that art. Thank through job to now. Yeah.
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